Michelle Nanouche interview on KGVY, Green Valley AZ

Michelle Nanouche

Excellent interview by Jim Walker with Michelle Nanouche, originally aired January 19, 2017 on KGVY in Green Valley, Arizona and the surrounding area.

Click the play button below to listen to the audio.


Our branch church is proud and grateful to provide a public talk every year in the Green Valley/Sahuarita area. A Christian Science lecturer, approved by the Christian Science Board of Lectureship,  is selected by members of this church to speak about a topic of his/her choosing. These talks are perfect for Christian Scientists and non-Scientists alike and have been well-attended over the years.

Michelle Nanouche was our lecturer on January 29, 2017


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Gratitude

My daughter, Mary, was diagnosed with cancer several weeks ago and had an appointment with a cancer doctor today.

I reached out for prayerful help and am pleased to report on her visit today, there was no sign of the lump that previously gave concern.  Praise God!  This truly is yet another demonstration of the power of prayer.

Christian Science is a most practical, rewarding religion.  As Mary Baker Eddy said “Christian Science will meet every human need”.

That statement has proven itself over and over in my experience.  I am blessed to have found this religion some fifty years ago and knew right off it would be an important part of my life.

Love, Mary Vance

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Protected From Danger, Freed From Lingering Anxiety

Spiritual intuition – a clear, calm sense of divine direction and guidance – is something I’ve come to value and completely trust.  This spiritual sense is inherent in all of us as the cherished children of God.  In times of need – great and small – when I’ve turned to God and quietly listened, I’ve experienced what the prophet Isaiah said in the Bible:  “And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left” (Isaiah 30:21).

A number of years ago, I had an opportunity to prove the spiritual power of these words in an unexpected way.  After the passing of my father, I wanted some time to myself to pray to better understand him as God’s eternal, spiritual child and to heal the sadness in my heart.  I rode my motorcycle to a lovely state park – it was a gorgeous spring day – and I found a sun-warmed wall overlooking a quiet lake – a perfect place to think and pray.

Lost in thought, I suddenly realized a man was standing quite close, on a gentle slope above me.  He appeared agitated, switching his weight from foot to foot and then pacing back and forth.  His presence made me uncomfortable and edgy.  Within a matter of moments, however, the discomfort grew into a numbing terror.  I sensed that I was in grave danger of sexual assault.

I reached out to God.  I had time for only “Father, help me!” because the man suddenly moved to within a yard of me.  Without thinking, I was on my feet.  A voice in thought said firmly, “Step toward him”.  I hesitated, but the thought came again,  more strongly and loudly:  “Step toward him now”.  I obeyed.  I stepped even closer and hollered, “Leave me alone!”  He spun on his heel and ran away, up through the grass and into the woods.

I walked away in profound gratitude, but as I neared the parking lot, I saw that from behind a tree the man was sneaking toward me.  My arm shot out and I felt impelled to point my finger at him, shouting, “No!  You!  Go!”  He did, and I was able to get in my motorcycle and leave.

Mary Baker Eddy writes, “Into His haven of Soul there enters no element of earth to cast out angels, to silence the right intuition which guides you safely home”  (Miscellaneous Writings 1883-1896, p. 152).  I knew that my Father-Mother God is always present, telling us, “This is the way, walk ye in it”, and that receptivity to divine Mind had protected me.  However, the event continued to negatively impact my thought and actions.  I found myself more hesitant to ride alone and blamed myself for having courted a dangerous situation.

But as I continued to grow in my spiritual understanding, I began to see that, in a spiritual sense, in the reality of God and His perfect creation, that man wasn’t “bad and predatory”, and I wasn’t “dumb and unaware”.  I realized we were both – no matter how it appeared humanly – the direct spiritual representatives of divine Love, God, made in God’s image and likeness, expressing intelligence, calmness, and clarity of thought.  We always had been and always would be.  This understanding freed me from the aftereffects of this incident.

Human experience tells us that man can be deviant, greedy, unconsciously selfish.  Or naive, vulnerable, blithely unthinking.  But material opinions about life have nothing whatsoever to do with who man really is as the reflection of God.  Mrs. Eddy says, “Every mortal must learn that there is neither power no reality in evil” (Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures, p. 186).  As the spiritual idea of his creator, man cannot be evil.  It’s impossible.

A number of times the Bible states that when Christ Jesus looked upon those who were in need, he was “moved with compassion”.  And then he healed – quickly and effectively.   What was going on with those healings at their deepest level?   In every situation, it was always the presence of Love, the divine Principle, being demonstrated.  Jesus proved that God’s law governs man, as he saw man’s true spiritual selfhood in whatever situation confronted him.  What naturally followed was that healing came to those with receptive hearts.

Grief about my dad was eased that day in the state park as my true Father’s care was so actively proven, and as I continued praying, full freedom came a short time later.  And whenever the incident in the park comes to thought, which it seldom does these days, I see how God’s love and care have overcome disgust, judgment, and fear.

The countless Christian Science hearings and demonstrations that have graced my life could well fill this entire publication.  I have tremendous gratitude for all that God is and all that God causes to be.  Amen.

Colleen Coleman Lester, Green Valley, Arizona, Church Member

 

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Atonement Revisited

Growing up, although I was familiar with “atone” as a verb, it didn’t occur to me to consider it in any theological/religious context.  To me it simply meant making amends for mistakes or misdeeds, owning up to them, straightening things out.  The implications were somewhat grim and foreboding.

I suppose that this view remained somewhere in the back of thought as I came into Christian Science.  The Bible Lessons on “Doctrine of Atonement” did not seem of great import or relevance to me for some time, although Mrs. Eddy’s hyphenation of the word into at-one-ment began to give a fresh, clearer sense to the term.

The fourth tenet of Christian Science begins “We acknowledge Jesus’ atonement as the evidence of divine, efficacious Love…”.  What followed was for me like the pre-digital days when any presentation with visual images likely included transparencies projected onto a screen.  As each slide came up, there was a brief interval before the light and heat of the projection bulb touches it, when the image was blurred and unclear.  Then suddenly it snapped into perfect focus and remained crisp and distinct to the viewers.

Similarly the word “evidence” stood out and called for attention.  I knew you can’t have evidence of something that doesn’t exist.  So Jesus didn’t, couldn’t have, originated atonement; he was demonstrating something already in existence.  Genesis 1 tells us God created man in His image and likeness.  As long as God and man have been (that is, since the beginning of creation) there must have been at-one-ment.  Like that slide popping into focus, what this made obvious to me is that atonement is not a process – it is and has always been an established fact.  We have to acknowledge and bear witness to it, but we can’t make it happen, because it already has.

The effect of this realization has been to replace the old, dire, somewhat off-putting view of atonement with a warm, joyous, uplifting sense of it.  Familiar terms take on wider, richer meaning – unity, oneness, coexistence, indissoluble connection (some terms Mrs. Eddy uses in Science and Health).  Atonement has become comforting and encouraging, it has warmth.  No longer an item on the “to do” list, it is a cause for gratitude and rejoicing, opening wonderful new dimensions to the idea of “togetherness”.

Beth Sanborn, Member

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A Lesson in Healing Grief

A few days ago, we got news that a dear friend was in the hospital. As we were driving there, it came to me that God is Life and there is nothing else. That God is All and there is nothing else. That time didn’t matter. That matter had no life. All of these thoughts flooded my consciousness and I felt very strong in my stand that Christian Science is true. It was indeed a glimpse – as Mrs. Eddy says in Mis. 24:14-24:18 “That short experience included a glimpse of the great fact that I have since tried to make plain to others, namely, Life in and of Spirit; this Life being the sole reality of existence”.

Our friend had stood on the understanding of God and man as Christian Science reveals to us from the Bible.  She had made it clear that she was relying on these Truths – that she was made by God, that she was spiritual and not material and that she would trust God with her life.  She apparently was in the hospital because her family thought it would be the best place for her and that is how they could care and love her.  After our visit, I continued to work with the clear, strong knowledge that God was her life and no matter what was happening all around her, God was in control.

Later that night we received the call that she had passed on.  In church the next day, we sang #298 in the Christian Science Hymnal, Mrs. Eddy’s Communion hymn, “Saw Ye My Saviour”.  As I heard the words read, the second verse popped out as if I had not heard those words before – “Mourner it calls you, come to my bosom, Love wipes your tears all away, and will lift the shade of gloom, and for you make radiant room midst the glories of one endless day”.  I reread verse one – about the Christ and the glad sound and the power of the Word.  It was a comforting message and one I could lean on and become free of grief for this dear friend.  She had gone on and was doing well.  I could cherish who she was and what she had done for all of us.  I was grateful that she took such a stand for herself in believing and understanding the Christ.  I could remember her laugh and her joy and care for us all and her many testimonies given at church.  It is a lesson I am learning and will continue to learn with God’s dear grace.

Jane Lang, Member

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Challenge Overcome by Listening to God

One Sunday the disposal at the kitchen sink stopped working.  The dishwasher was also hooked into this disposal which meant I could neither wash dishes at the sink nor run the dishwasher.  Though I had a list of handy men, I knew I would not be able to get one of them to work on the weekend.  So I decided I would install a new disposal myself.  After all, how difficult can that be?  So I purchased a new disposal at Home Depot, brought it home and studied the directions for installation thoroughly.  Removing the old, “not working disposal” was easy, as it released easily, and simply dropped into my hands.  The directions for installation said simply that I must hold the new disposal up to the sink with my left hand and connect it with my right hand.  I was lying on my back on the floor of the cabinet, holding the disposal above my head.  However, no matter how many times I tried, I simply seemed to lack the strength needed.  So I quit for awhile, and decided to work metaphysically on the problem.  Again and again I affirmed that omnipotent God supplies whatever strength is needed, but it took me till the next day to recognize that mortal mind had convinced me that because I am a woman, I would not have sufficient strength.  I finally realized that I had not been listening, and I asked God to please tell me whatever I needed to know.  Almost immediately I knew to go to the garage and get the Tire Jack!!!  In no time at all the dishwasher installation was complete.  Surely God loves me!

Charlotte Petry

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Gratitude to God for Care, Protection and Love Which Surrounds Me

Desert View, a Christian Science Nursing Facility in Phoenix, Arizona, is a wonderful place.  They take wonderful care of their patients and the support for Christian Science treatment is solid.  Within three days I was well.  My son flew in from California and stayed at a nearby motel and visited each day.  At one point, I did experience a relapse, but soon received a firm healing.

If I were in Green Valley, I would be testifying at church about the wonderful healing experience at Desert View.  We Arizonans have a gem in our midst.  If you would like to testify for me that would be okay.

A number of members at the Green Valley church have sent cards and notes which have been forwarded to me.  What a delight to receive them.  I hope to answer them all soon.

Bet you are surprised at the return address on this letter.  My daughter lives about twenty minutes from here and wanted me close by.  This way we can see each other quite frequently.  As you know Wide Horizon, a Christian Science Nursing and Assisted Living  Facility in Colorado, is an exquisitely beautiful place.  Wonderful views – trees of all sorts, a little creek and plantings.  My daughter, Marsha, flew to Desert View and then we flew together to Denver for the move.

I have not words to express my deep sense of gratitude to God for the care, protection, and love that surrounds me.

Charlotte Petry, Member

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Innocence

Recently I found myself becoming annoyed with several people I knew.  In praying about the situation and knowing it wasn’t right to feel that way, the thought came to me that when our little cat does something not quite right, I usually say “Oh, you’re a good boy – you didn’t mean it”.  The same when a small child doesn’t do something right, it’s easy to say to the child, “You didn’t mean that – you’re good”.  I began to think about why it is so easy to show grace and forgiveness to small children or animals.  It’s because I think of them as innocent – harmless and needing cherishing and protecting.  Somehow I had accepted the belief that as we grow older we lose our innocence and childlikeness.

But what is the difference between children and older people?  There is none.  There is no time when we lose our innocence.  It is God-given – the same yesterday, and today and forever.  It cannot diminish or be taken away or hidden.  Innocence must be affirmed and cherished and protected in all of God’s children around the world.  Think what good would become apparent it I began every day affirming innocence in everyone I encountered or thought about.

Mary Lou, Member

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The Way it’s “Supposed to be”? Good!

Several years ago, after much prayer, I was inspired to place my house on the market to sell, with the brave intent of moving clear across the country.  However, months went by and there was no sale.  I lowered the price twice, and made some minor cosmetic changes to make the property more appealing.  Still there was no sale.  Then I wondered if maybe this failure to sell was a “sign” from God that I wasn’t supposed to move after all.  But then I thought more deeply about it.

If a student of mathematics has trouble solving an equation, that wouldn’t be a “sign” that the problem isn’t solvable.  The student knows that because the principles of mathematics are already established, the solution has already been established.  She also knows that she is fully capable of understanding and applying those principles correctly in order to find the right answer.

It was my deep and earnest desire to understand the principles of divine Science at work in my life.  I wasn’t seeking a specific human outcome to my housing situation, but an understanding of my true, spiritual home.  As I listened for divine Principle’s – God’s – guidance, I gained a wonderful calm clarity.  I realized that the fact that my house had failed to sell just meant that my house had not sold, and that believing that circumstance was a “sign” was a superstition.

To conclude that each event in our human experience – both good and bad – must have divine authority, is a misguided belief.  It is as unscientific as believing that the roll of the dice or the numbers on a lottery ticket are sanctioned by heaven, God, the all-knowing Mind, does not play games with His beloved creation.  Nor is “fate” another name for omnipotent God.

There is an exact, dependable, invariable, and loving divine Principle governing our lives, including housing decisions.  And that divine Principle is God.  Turning away from human speculation about what was “supposed to be”, I focused on gaining an understanding of what is.  I began to see that it actually didn’t so much matter where in the world I lived.  My true sense of home is not a geographical spot on Earth, because I am always at home in the all-inclusiveness of God’s love.  Restlessness or mere thrill-seeking adventurism also had no place in this settled spiritual home.

Such peace followed these realizations!  All confusion and uncertainty vanished as spiritual reasoning based on divine Principle overcame human reasoning in my thought.  Within a month, the house sold, I moved and settled into a new place.  My peaceful understanding of my spiritual “home” stayed with me, much like a snail has its shell everywhere it goes.

What truly is “supposed to be” already is and ever was.  It requires no anxious waiting for tea leaves to reveal a pattern or for unseen mysterious forces to come into play and coalesce a plan.  The fact is that God, good, is the only cause.  Harmony and order are the effects.  Speculation about what is humanly “supposed to be” must give place to these divine facts.

We may become sidetracked by imagining scenarios of chance or failure, but when we look out from the mountaintop of spiritual understanding and keep this higher view, we find no need to join the game of guessing and weighing outcomes.  This higher view is based on the allness of God, good.  And we can surely expect God’s goodness in our lives.  This is not watching with sheer optimism, to see how the wind blows, and equating that with God’s will.

This “whatever happens is supposed to happen” or “everything happens for a reason” thinking entertains the possibility that bad outcomes and uncertainty are God’s will.  We may start to ask God multiple choice questions like “Will I find my right home, or not”? or “Will I be healed, or not”?  God’s will has no either/or when it comes to our care.  God’s will is invariable good, and can have no other conclusion but good in our lives.

Mary Bakes Eddy writes:  “Immortal Mind is God, immortal good; in whom the Scripture saith ‘we live, and move, and have out being’.  This Mind…is the divine intelligence, or Principle, of all real being; holding man forever in the rhythmic round of unfolding bliss, as a living witness to and perpetual idea of inexhaustible good”.  (Miscellaneous Writings 1883-1896, pp. 82-83)  Understanding this true condition of our existence gives us a foundation upon which to build our expectations of the right resolution to any questions we face.

Earlene Cox

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Computer Problem Fixed Through Prayer

The annual audit was immanent for the financial records for which I was responsible.  I also had an annual Treasurer’s Report due.  The problem was the records did not balance.  I had imputed all the expense and income information correctly as I had reconciled with the bank statement for each month.  I had taken a lot of time going over the records and could not find the problem.  The software program I use is good except it has its own way of doing things and I couldn’t find out what needed to be done.  I walked around the yard and said to myself that there is a solution.  There is a solution and it comes from listening to God.  I knew that God as Principle had everything under control.  Mrs. Eddy’s definition of God on Page 587 of the Glossary of Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures states “God.  The great I AM; the all-knowing, all- seeing, all-acting, all-wise, all-loving, and eternal;…”  That was my solution and it was to center my thoughts on God.  As I did this I was led to open the program again and read the headings and found the discrepancy.  I spent a few hours going back and redoing the reconciliation which the program let me do.  It was also a comfort to me that the software had made an entry which I was unaware of and even though it seemed my error, there was an answer.  The problem was corrected and the records were correct.  All was well.  I am so grateful to know that God is ever with me to guide my thoughts and actions.

Jane, Member

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